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  1. Richard

    and anytime some asshole marks tires 1,2,3,4 i erase 2, 3 and 4 and make them all say 1. thats gets them all confused.

  2. ThePeoplesGarage

    yea just depends on the shop..ive been at shops that are just lazy and it drives me nuts!

  3. john g

    I have a personal question, about my truck. my RWD Chevy s10 has nearly new tires on the back and the tires on the front have about 4/32 left. I have not rotated them since I got the new tires on the back, (about one year, 12,000miles ago) because I live in such a wintery climate, North Dakota. and so I have the better tires on the drive axle. (got stuck 3 times last year). do you think I should rotate them or finish wearing down the front ones and then replace them?

    oh and one more reason front tires wear faster is because 65% of braking is done by the front disk brakes. (from my school's text book)

  4. Amjad Younis

    New Tires should all-ways goes to front End so you will not get any shake you don't want shimmy on power steering! You should have all good tires .. dont save money when it comes to Tires or Brakes ..

  5. Nick Dau

    You had some good points, but man… You were thinking of most of this on the spot… As an experienced advisor, service manager it's easy to spot you trying to talk your way out of what you started out trying to explain… Hydroplaning is when a cushion of water is created between your tire and the pavement resulting in a loss of contact and therefore a loss of control. As such, it is just as bad if not worse on the steering axle of the vehicle as opposed to the rear. A blow out on the front end of a vehicle is worse than the rear, this is because you lose steering control. The engine "planting down" on the front doesn't save you… Tires will generally wear quicker on the drive axle. Rear tires don't just "relax and go along for the ride"… You're front wheels are always facing direction of travel, because rear wheels do not pivot, they are constantly being dragged around, in the process of making a corner, there's more stress on rear rubber than front because the axle is straight, but the wheels are being forced to move in a non-forward direction. Yes, you make some good points, but you are also representing a lot of in accurate info as fact.

  6. Piano Man42

    This didn't help my situation.  Thanks though.    I am a poor laborer.  I drive a 95 Honda civic.  I ran off the road accidentally and just bumped into a curb.  This happened because of poor traction on ice.  The damage was only a bent rim.   I took it to my tire shop (peerless); junction city Kansas.   There was no pulling to side when driving; no vibrations; no symptoms (after impact).  However, manager told me it was very important to replace the rim and have them install it.  Rim that was damaged on right front; only had a 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch divot on the out side edge.              
                     Total Width of said divot is 1 inch or so.  So, I waited till pay day; got the replacement rim and dropped my car off.  I walked home in the snow.  The tire shop mounted the new rim, and rotated the tires.  I got a call saying "bad news".  Said when I hit curb, I damaged my back end; on several components.  Quoted me 1100 dollars in repairs.  The impact was on right front; but most of  the damage occurred in the rear. 
                       The impact was only very slight; hardly anything.     So I take the estimate and drive away right?  Then my car is pulling very hard to right, I mean hardcore.  I immediately noticed it.  I don't think the impact to the curb was really the issue; because I drove it for 4 days with no hard pulling to right.  If I let go of the steering wheel after the tire shop did the rotation; I would be in a collision.  Somebody help.  I don't want to shell out 1100 dollars for some greedy bastards.  I only want to make logical sense out of the situation.  Tire rotation by physical evidence went front to rear in straight pattern, not criss cross.
                     All tires were brand new when installed on the vehicle.  I am using common sense; and not mechanic school.  As a result, I am realizing:  Something is not right with this picture and it makes no logical sense whatsoever.  I think Peerless manager thinks I am Forrest Gump.   I have no mechanical knowledge but a hell of a lot of common sense.   Suggestions?
                    In case I was not clear:  no symptoms driving after curb incident; only symptoms after tire rotation and replacing dented rim

  7. Rassiel Coto

    the tires with the most thread left should always be on the rear axle in a FWD vehicle to prevent loosing control in case of hydroplaning, also you did not mention that some vehicles have different sizes in the axles and customers dont even know that and think we are lying, it is not rare that a customer shows up for a tire rotation with 7 years old tires, all cracked and old, and they get furious when we refuse to rotate those tires, im sorry but i dont want to do anything with that

  8. Michael Bowman

    98 times out of 100, when a shop doesn't, or "refuses" to, rotate tires it's for liability reasons. The other 2 times, it's usually because the tech didn't read the work order, or they simply forgot because there's too much grab-ass going on in the shop.

  9. dcarlson1977

    there are other reasons not to rotate your tires. The best tires are on the front and the rear tires need to be addressed.

  10. dcarlson1977

    you should really show both sides to the story. you are bias.

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